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by mdof3 on June 15, 2006 11:45 AM
My plants are about 4 weeks old / couple of diff kinds, I planted them in raised garden new dirt and miricle grow soil. alot of the leafs on certain stems are curling up yellow and braown color and I think are dead on all the plants what is it

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by peppereater on June 15, 2006 12:23 PM
It could be several things. Are they the bottom leaves?

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by court on June 16, 2006 04:27 PM
i read in my favorite tomato growing book (lois hole) about this and she says that yellow leave could be a nitrogen deficiency. the leaf curl could be caused by heavy rain or a wide variation between day and night time temps.

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by weezie13 on June 17, 2006 01:13 AM
mdof3,
Do you happen to have any pictures??
That helps alot with diagnosis for us...

If not, it could be both as above stated...

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by mdof3 on June 17, 2006 09:24 AM
Its all over not just the bottom I even used Mirc/grow garden soil / How do I show ya a pic on this site

Steve

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by mdof3 on June 17, 2006 09:30 AM
Also my daughter has other plants in another area which are fine / I have cucs in the same area which are fine also

Steve

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by weezie13 on June 19, 2006 03:33 PM
mdof3,
If you go to www.photobucket.com,
and get a free album, *make it public to all*
and all pictures posted here should be 640 x 800...

Copy the URL link to your photo in question,
then come back to this post, and click on the
FULL REPLY FORM below... find the IMAGE button and click on that... *delete or backspace on the highlighted blue http:/ thingie, and PASTE your URL into there, and hit reply....

Any quesions, give a great big holler..
There's lot's of folks here that can walk you thru it if you yet HELP...

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Don't forget to be kind to strangers. For some who have
done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
- Bible - Hebrews 13:2

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by melcon6 on June 19, 2006 11:34 PM
Oops, I think Weezie meant 640 x 480 ! [Embarrassed] [Big Grin]

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by johnCT on June 20, 2006 04:39 AM
Is this garden soil used in containers? This may be your problem. Could be excessive water if all the leaves are turning yellow. Get a good, well-draining potting mix to use in containers.

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by mdof3 on June 23, 2006 09:19 AM
I used bags of top soil and a bag of miracale grow garden soil mixed in a raised garden about 8" high with fence. At one time I did see some spots and to be on the safe side sprayed them ounce with Sevin bug killer for gardens they where fine for a couple weeks then bam. I water with a sprinkle can in the morning but not if it rained or is going to rain I am in pa and the temp in aroun 75-80 during the day 60 at night I am attaching pics if I did it right http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/mdof3/tomato1.jpg http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/mdof3/tomato.jpg

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by mdof3 on June 23, 2006 09:29 AM
P.S They look alot worse now and my cucs are starting to do the same thing

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by johnCT on June 24, 2006 02:14 AM
Definitely not chlorosis. It's interesting that the lower leaves are unaffected. At first I was thinking some sort of wilt. You say it's worse now and affecting your cukes too? Can you snap some more recent pics?

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by peppereater on June 24, 2006 03:35 AM
It kind of looks to me like wind burn. Or they may have dried out at some point. Did they wilt at some point?
I had a few leaves do pretty much the same thing. I stuck my finger in the soil to see if it had dried out, and I found a mole tunnel! Little booger had dug through the roots on one side! [Mad]

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Even my growlights are getting restless!
by mdof3 on June 24, 2006 05:19 AM
Here are some updated pics / I bought them all the same day same place and my daughters in another location are great http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/mdof3/dads006.jpg http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/mdof3/dads005.jpg http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/mdof3/dads007.jpg

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by weezie13 on June 24, 2006 06:07 AM
Questions??

When you put that Sevin stuff on it,
Where the plants already watered for the day,
or did you do it when the soil was dry????

And When you did the Sevin stuff, was it in the morning before sun came up or like high noon, time of day???
And have you added any other fertilizers to it,
like a granular or liquid soluable????

And when you planted them originally, how were they, in six packs, hardened off... or by seed?

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Weezie

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done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
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by johnCT on June 24, 2006 06:40 AM
Wow! Were any herbicides used close-by? Weed killers? If the plants were fine for weeks after spraying the Sevin, my guess is that's not the problem. Was it a pre-mixed spraybottle or did you mix it?

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by mdof3 on June 24, 2006 08:50 AM
I sprayed it in the eve the soil may have been dry ? and I water in the morning / Only used Mirc/grow tomato food Twice / And when I used the spray only because this started and I thought it was a form of bug and it just progreesed and I think it may take over the world sorry it just makes me mad. I take my time give them my love and my daughter sticks her's in the ground and does not even take to much care and she has tomato bushes. they were from diff 6 packs

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by weezie13 on June 24, 2006 02:56 PM
My first thoughts were if you used the Sevin product in the hot day time, *noon* or when the ground was dry... I understand that's a no~no..
Same for using the liquid fertilizers when the sun is shining is equivalant to them burning in the sun..

Also, when using the Miracle Grow soil then also doing the Miracle Liquid Fert, it's like a double dose..Which also burns the plants.....

Which then also means alottt of nitrogen, and that can cause burning or leaves turning in or up..

I know exactly what you mean by when you give them tender loving care and they don't do well..
And someone just shoves them in the ground without a care... know it wellllllllll...

But someone here said, and I believe it was Julianna/Tomatofreak.... that the more you baby the tomato plant.. the more problematic it becomes..
and I leave it alone and it will survive quite nicely without help.... because of their weed~like tendancy's... and I BELIEVE IT....
*they are like weeds here*

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Weezie

Don't forget to be kind to strangers. For some who have
done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
- Bible - Hebrews 13:2

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by peppereater on June 25, 2006 05:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by weezie13:

Also, when using the Miracle Grow soil then also doing the Miracle Liquid Fert, it's like a double dose..Which also burns the plants.....

Which then also means alottt of nitrogen, and that can cause burning or leaves turning in or up..

True, that could be part of it. I'd snip off all the dead, and keep the plants evenly watered, then hope for the best. And like Weezie said, don't pamper them. At this point, they'll either make it or not. I really don't think you're dealing with disease. Wilts and other diseases would cause discoloration and other symptoms that would be more obvious.

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Even my growlights are getting restless!
by Internetowl on June 25, 2006 06:47 AM
Hi, I've got a similar issue with some plants I bought pre-grown from a garden centre ; mine own from seed (a bit behind) are green and going strong but no fruit yet but are flowering but the garden centre ones are bigger but seem to be dying off at the bottom levels. Is there any way of saving them. They are growing in pots in the greenhouse and I've used a propritory tomato feed as per instructions on the bottle on them and the other 'homegrown' and they're ok.

It could be the temperature as we keep getting days when the temp in the greenhouse is close to 100c and then cool at night [Frown]
by peppereater on June 25, 2006 07:12 AM
100c? You mean 100F? If the leaves are just getting yellow, with no spots or other discoloration, it may just be that they've outgrown their pots and need to be transplanted, or they've been overwatered. If frost danger is past, I'd get them in the ground. Pinch off the bottom leaves and plant them deep...they'll form roots from the buried stems.

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Even my growlights are getting restless!
by Internetowl on June 26, 2006 02:28 AM
100F - yes sorry [Wink] it has been warm [Smile]

If its overwatered any fix short of not watering them for a bit? I've planted some outside, they are lovely and green and getting bushy its just these I got from the Garden Centre - really disappointed in them [Frown]
by weezie13 on June 26, 2006 04:33 AM
Tomatoes like it hot, but I think that's a bit
too hot even for them..

Plus if it's in a container...
It's higher in temp's than it would be if it were in the ground.. *raised beds/containers thaw and warm more quickly in the winter and drain faster when watered..

P/S Welcome aboard Mick, we're glad you found us.

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Don't forget to be kind to strangers. For some who have
done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
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by Longy on June 26, 2006 11:49 AM
mdof3 i think the tomatoes in your fotos are gowing in soil which is too hot. The wood is drawing in heat and even though there is plenty of moisture in the soil, the soil temp is high. Possibly too high for the roots to function properly. I'm betting the tommies in the fotos are on the western side of the bed. Is there some way you can shade this side of the bed? A thick mulch would also help keep soil temps more consistent.

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