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by Cricket on February 04, 2005 01:51 AM
Cindy sent me three weeping willow saplings that I need advice with planting. Should they be planted while dormant or wait until buds begin to form? If I wait, should they be potted in soil or left in water? The roots are well developed. Current temperatures here are in the low-mid teens Celcius (50's F). My plan is to plant them next to a creek that runs through the property - how near (or far) from the water is best?
by obywan59 on February 04, 2005 08:35 AM
You said saplings, so I assume they are well rooted and not simply cuttings which you would have to root yourself.
Where did Cindy have the saplings, were they potted up? inside or outside? If I remember correctly, she lives in Kentucky which has roughly the same climate as Virginia. We've had a couple of nights this winter below zero, so if they've been outside all the time they should be plenty hardy. I would think, with you being in zone 8b, that if the ground isn't frozen and the plants are hardened, it would be best if they were planted out. I have seen them growing right on the edge of water, but one book I have said they like well-drained, moist soil, so maybe on a stream bank as opposed to a flatter marshy area.
If one dies, they are easy to replace. I took some cuttings from my mom's weeping willow and just stuck them in the ground on the north side of my house where the soil doesn't dry out and they rooted and grew.
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Terry
May the force be with you
Where did Cindy have the saplings, were they potted up? inside or outside? If I remember correctly, she lives in Kentucky which has roughly the same climate as Virginia. We've had a couple of nights this winter below zero, so if they've been outside all the time they should be plenty hardy. I would think, with you being in zone 8b, that if the ground isn't frozen and the plants are hardened, it would be best if they were planted out. I have seen them growing right on the edge of water, but one book I have said they like well-drained, moist soil, so maybe on a stream bank as opposed to a flatter marshy area.
If one dies, they are easy to replace. I took some cuttings from my mom's weeping willow and just stuck them in the ground on the north side of my house where the soil doesn't dry out and they rooted and grew.
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Terry
May the force be with you
by Cricket on February 04, 2005 09:35 AM
Thanks, Terry! Cindy had the willows rooting in water in her kitchen window - I'm temporarily doing the same. Their root systems are already well developed so I'm thinking they should soon be in soil. The ground here isn't frozen, so it wouldn't be difficult to plant them on the sloping banks of the creek. Can they be planted directly outside from indoors?
by obywan59 on February 04, 2005 04:16 PM
I had to look this up in my plant propagation textbook. Basically, your cuttings were propagated by the method of "warm temperature callusing". The callus is usually a swollen area that occurs at the base of the cutting where the roots generate from. Anyway, the authors say in mild climates it's okay to plant out, but otherwise hold till spring. Since you're getting temperatures in the teens, I might be leery of planting them out directly, especially if there is any sign of new growth. They recommend cold storage of 35-40 degrees. Do you have an unheated attached garage? I'm not sure when your'e last frost is, (next month?)but you could probably just keep them inside in a cooler area of your house till around that time.
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Terry
May the force be with you
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Terry
May the force be with you
by obywan59 on February 04, 2005 04:22 PM
Also Cricket, you're right, they should probably be in soil now. As cool as possible, above freezing though, as you don't want to stimulate too much top growth before they're ready to go outside.
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Terry
May the force be with you
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Terry
May the force be with you
by suzydaze on February 04, 2005 04:38 PM
plant now you move a tree before the sap rises. Get it in the ground ASAP!
Hubby's old granny always use to say move a tree when the sap is down, in late fall (after leaves have fallen off and before spring before it makes new leaves
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I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.
-Jennifer Unlimited-
Hubby's old granny always use to say move a tree when the sap is down, in late fall (after leaves have fallen off and before spring before it makes new leaves
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I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.
-Jennifer Unlimited-
by afgreyparrot on February 04, 2005 04:59 PM
I've been trying to find a picture of the willows I sent to Cricket. I thought I took some, but now I think I must have dreamed it (but let's not go there right now!) ![[lala]](im/graemlins/lala.gif)
They were cut from the tree when it started getting cold outside, maybe had one frost. I rooted them in a jar of water. The roots are plentiful, and there was quite a bit of new growth (green) on them. Just been lettin' them grow in water for two months. So, they've never been outside in the cold yet.
I was thinkin' maybe if they were planted in a pot with potting soil first, the roots could get used to being in soil a little before they got the shock of being put outside in COLD soil. Then, when you set them out, just keep the potting soil around the roots good...maybe line the pot with a paper bag so the soil will stay in place when you take it out of the pot.
Did that make sense?![[nutz]](im/graemlins/nutz.gif)
Some stuff I try to say doesn't, you know!![[Big Grin]](im/biggrin.gif)
Cindy
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Buckle up! It makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car!
They were cut from the tree when it started getting cold outside, maybe had one frost. I rooted them in a jar of water. The roots are plentiful, and there was quite a bit of new growth (green) on them. Just been lettin' them grow in water for two months. So, they've never been outside in the cold yet.
I was thinkin' maybe if they were planted in a pot with potting soil first, the roots could get used to being in soil a little before they got the shock of being put outside in COLD soil. Then, when you set them out, just keep the potting soil around the roots good...maybe line the pot with a paper bag so the soil will stay in place when you take it out of the pot.
Did that make sense?
Some stuff I try to say doesn't, you know!
Cindy
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Buckle up! It makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car!
by Amy R. on February 04, 2005 08:28 PM
My mom had a corkscrew willow(she rooted it from a florist bouquet!)that she planted in her yard, only to have to dig it up 5 years later as she found out it was rooting into her septic system over 30 feet away! She found out they were heavy drinkers, and had to move it to a more appropriate spot.
I wonder if it is the same for weepers? If so, it's great that you have a creek nearby!!!
I wonder if it is the same for weepers? If so, it's great that you have a creek nearby!!!
by afgreyparrot on February 04, 2005 08:54 PM
quote:Yep.
I wonder if it is the same for weepers?
Mine are heavy drinkers, too.
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Buckle up! It makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car!
by suzydaze on February 04, 2005 09:09 PM
got mine next to a ditch, they grow wild on the ditches and rivers here.
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I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.
-Jennifer Unlimited-
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I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.
-Jennifer Unlimited-
by Cricket on February 05, 2005 12:55 AM
Quoted from Terry:
Quoted from Cindy:
![[tears]](im/graemlins/crying.gif)
Will they recover?
quote:Guess I didn't clarify that: temperatures are in the teens Celcius, which converts to 50's Farenheit.
Since you're getting temperatures in the teens, I might be leery of planting them out directly, especially if there is any sign of new growth.
Quoted from Cindy:
quote:Ummm...Cindy, by the time the SLOW postal service delivered the package, any green that was there was shrivelled up brown. Now I've got rooted sticks in water.
The roots are plentiful, and there was quite a bit of new growth (green) on them
Will they recover?
by afgreyparrot on February 05, 2005 02:02 AM
![[shocked]](im/graemlins/shock.gif)
They didn't travel too well, did they?
They'll be fine. No problem.
Might ought to clip the tops of them off where they turned brown.
Cindy
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Buckle up! It makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car!
by Cricket on February 05, 2005 02:38 AM
Done!
by afgreyparrot on February 05, 2005 06:13 AM
So...whatcha gonna do? ![[dunno]](im/graemlins/dunno.gif)
Plant 'em, leave 'em in water, or pot them?
(my vote...put them babies in some potting soil and let them get a taste of DIRT!)
Cindy
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Buckle up! It makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car!
Plant 'em, leave 'em in water, or pot them?
(my vote...put them babies in some potting soil and let them get a taste of DIRT!)
Cindy
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Buckle up! It makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car!
by Cricket on February 05, 2005 11:47 AM
Thanks for all your advice!
I'm going to pot the willows, set them outside during the day and closely mother them until I see they've recovered, then plant them outside.
I'm going to pot the willows, set them outside during the day and closely mother them until I see they've recovered, then plant them outside.
by Fire Fighter Farmer on February 18, 2005 03:38 PM
Question, I was planning on planting 3 Willows. I understand they can grow with a width of about 35'. How far apart should they be planted? Is it better to put them closer together? I plan on placing them in a triangle pattern near a creak to soak up the water when it overflows. It takes forever to drain and when our horses go down there after the rain, the field gets torn up. Suggestions?
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