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by Sherri on January 14, 2004 10:37 PM
Quick queston for all you knowledgable greenhouse people. Okay, I really want a greenhouse but don't have a hope in you know what of getting the actual glass kind that I want. [Roll Eyes] So, I've been checking out the steel framed, plastic covered ones. Now I think I found a pretty good deal on a 6x4 one, but my question is, if the bottom is not enclosed, will frost still be a problem? The plastic comes right down and fits snug one all sides around the bottom, but there is no floor to it. You know what I mean? So, any input would be helpful, whether I should go for it, or keep saving and trying to convince my husband that it would add to the retail value of our house!! [Wink] Hope someone can help me!!!

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by Flower on January 15, 2004 01:24 PM
Frost will still be a problem....I know it is with mine. Unless you plan on heating it all year round, you wont be able to use it in the winter. You can extend your growing season by weeks....and you could try and put down a "floor" of plywood .... that helps too.

Good luck...I sure hope you get this greenhouse....you'd LOVE it!!

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by Sherri on January 15, 2004 10:44 PM
Flower,
Thank you! I figured that it would be useless in the winter, way toooooooo cold here, but I was thinking early spring when it is still too cold at night but beautiful during the day. I think I'm going to go for the plastic one and just keep trying for the glass one. EVENTUALLY he HAS to cave. Right? And the plastic one is better than none. So, thanks again! I'm sure I'll have more greenhouse questions once I get one, hope you're up for them!

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by weezie13 on January 15, 2004 11:17 PM
Sherri,
Do a FORUM SEARCH< with GREENHOUSES,
you'll probably come up with a ton of conversations about them.
It's good way to read up on a subject.
and learn a little bit more about the
"crew" we have here..
We all get to drueling when we hear that word.

I know NIKKAL put her OWN UP< ALL BY HERSELF<
she's got it in pictures and stuff she did and shouldn't of done, and things we shouldn't do either!!!!

Happy reading...
Weezie

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Don't forget to be kind to strangers. For some who have
done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
- Bible - Hebrews 13:2

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by heuchera on January 16, 2004 01:04 AM
I have had one of these for a couple of years,and i manage to overwinter,margurite and fuchsia cuttings in it with no problems,just make sure you keep compost on the dry side,that way pots are less liable to freeze.

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by weezie13 on January 16, 2004 01:34 AM
Heuchera,
Can I ask what climate you have?
Or do you have a growing zone there??

We get awefully cold winters here,
(today it was -6*'s when we got up)
I think where Sherri is, in Canada,
is even colder than my area...(I don't know her zone)
I know my compost freezes [Eek!] and I
can't thaw it until spring!!!
(I compost alot, 3 wooden homemade bins,
1 double barrel compost tumbler, and 2 plastic
bins, and large piles in the back (I meant the back 40 of my yard, no piles in my back!!! [Big Grin] )

Could you discribe how you do it???
Or what you keep the compost in???
I would be very curious to know!!!

Weezie

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Weezie

Don't forget to be kind to strangers. For some who have
done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
- Bible - Hebrews 13:2

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by heuchera on January 16, 2004 01:16 PM
I have had a look at a frost zone chart and i think my area is is equivalent to your zone 5.
We get frost from october to may,but i agree,don,t think it gets quite as cold here as canada,compost i refered to is what the cuttings are planted in.
don,t emember my compost heap ever freezing solid.
Had rats nesting in it in winter before now,so it must stay fairly warm.

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by weezie13 on January 16, 2004 01:56 PM
The very first winter I was here, that happened with those nasty, nasty, nasty critters, I'm shuttering thinking of them. It was such a warm winter, and I found chew holes in my plastic bin.
*I thought chipmunks had done that* but later some neighbors had told me they saw them and one time I was in my side bed and found one dead, I think one of the neighborhood kitties got it.
Scared the [shocked] livin' cr*p right out of me [scaredy] as I am always in my own little world back there and as I'm walking I saw it. [shocked]
I never want to see one of those again!!!!
And I realized it had been in there, so I only used that compost to prepare some soil way in the back yard that I'd like to do someday, but still haven't, I'm sure it's rendered down and nothing nasty will be in it!!! I still have to figure out what I want to do with that area...That's a someday project!!

Weezie

How do you over winter your cuttings in the compost? Do they have roots??? Little ones??

Weezie

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Weezie

Don't forget to be kind to strangers. For some who have
done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
- Bible - Hebrews 13:2

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by heuchera on January 16, 2004 03:37 PM
O ther than gardening i,m also a great lover of animals and nature,but when it comes to rats i do the same as you ,shudder,cringe.
I., sure they must have a purpose here,like all other animals do,just haven,t yet figured out what it is.
I take cuttings in august,place them in 3inch pots of multi purpose compost and they root within a couple of weeks,come the spring i,ll put them into larger pots outside to grow on.

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The grass may be greener on the other side,but you still have to mow it.
by Sherri on January 16, 2004 04:12 PM
Yuck rats!! I hate those little buggers. Haven't seen any yet but I set my composter up with chicken wire along the bottom and what not, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I never see one. They really are a nuicence in some parts of the city though, I know a couple people who simply stopped composting because of them! [Razz] Anyways, I'm a zone 4 here(-32C today!!! [Eek!] )so I wouldn't be able to use it (greenhouse) during winter, but I'm pretty excited anyways. It'll make it so nice to work with seedlings, etc. in the spring! Weezie, thanks for the idea, [Wink] I'm going to check that out next. I'm drawing out the backyard and trying to figure out where would be the best place to plant it. So much planning to do! I'm so excited!

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